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Junior Member
Registered: 01-24-09
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Hello all. I'm new here, and have been watching the show for a while and I've decided that I'm going to get into gem hunting by purchasing buckets of material over the internet, and hopefully in the near future start making some trips to hunt on my own. Where do you sell your finds? Also, is it better to have a jeweler cut the stones before you sell them, or can you sell them rough?
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Registered: 10-07-08
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Hey Ratrace,
As my dear old Pa says, "You don't SELL rocks, you BUY rocks". Most of us are in it because we have no choice; we are genetically predisposed to digging, prospecting, fossicking, finding, creating, displaying, hoarding, trading, giving and protecting our treasures.
That being said, write back and let us know where you are. We can refer you to your local gem / mineral club. They will have up to date info on local huntin' opportunities (complete with organized field trips). They may also know what is currently in demand in your area, and probably sponsor a Gem & Mineral Show with vendors peddling their wares.
Happy hunting.
-Rocky.
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I like digging in the ground as much as the next guy, but from the sounds of it, the places that I would need to go to hunt would involve a bit of travel, overnight stays (or longer), etc, so it would be nice to be able to offset some of that cost by selling a bit of the finds. I'm located in Houston Texas.
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Ratrace,
You have fallen into hounding heaven.
The Texas Faceters' Guild is in Houston.
A good place to take all the facetables you will be finding.

Mailing address is:
PMB 298
10400 S. Post Oak Rd. East
Houston, Texas 77035
Phone: (713) 728-4912

Then there's the Houston Gem & Mineral Society
www.hgms.org
10805 Brooklet
Houston, Texas 77099
Phone: [281] 395-3087

Give 'em both a call & go to a meeting. They will have more local info than I can give you.

But here's one petrified wood spot to get you started.
About 40 miles west of Houston, where I-10 crosses the Brazos River you'll fnd the pet wood in the river & on the banks. Be sure to talk to club members & the field trip chairperson first. I haven't been there in some time and they will know about any restrictions.
Enjoy.
-Rocky.
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OOPS. Scratch that. The HGMS phone # was changed to: (281) 530-0942
My bad.
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Thanks for the info, I'll call them. I live pretty close to the location on the Brazos that you describe, and I've got some free time coming up later this week. Do you live around Houston?
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Sorry, no. I haven't been 'back east' for years. Smile I'm out Californy-ways.
-Rocky.
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Registered: 02-12-09
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Be sure to talk to club members & the field trip chairperson first. I haven't been there in some time and they will know about any restrictions.


Ratrace - pay special heed to that advice and don't go out there until you find out what to do and who to talk to about it first. I don't know how it is out in Texas, but here in Florida, many riverbank finds are guarded by folks with shotguns - especially in the case of Freshwater Agatized Coral from the Suwanee River.

Out of my ignorance, I learned that lesson the hard way; had the local sheriff caught me (instead of a friend), I could have faced time in prison. Check with those who know about the area, make sure the property owner or local authorities know you're gonna be on-site and get permission, if possible. You know the drill. Relock gates that are locked and vice-versa.

I'm sure you're a considerate person Smile and will do everything correctly - too many prime hunting areas have been permanently closed because some yahoo barged in headlong. Thanks for not being one of them!

Now in regard to selling gemstones, the supply of really good stuff that sells for a good price is becoming sharply limited and the public does not care about that. TV gem shows and the like have undercut the market by selling inferior stones and not educating the general public as to what a truly good gemstone is, nor why it costs as much as it does. I know this because I made a small fortune recutting the garbage that my clients bought on TV - once I educated them about quality gemstones, they bought from me. I am proud to say that I usually cut excellent material to investment grade quality and have never cheated a client.

That said, you have every bit as much likelihood of finding and marketing specimens and gemstones as I had, and I did very well. But you must realize that there is no substitute for learning everything you can - what it is, where it is, how to get it, how to work it, why it is valuable and where to sell it. If you learn all that - and joining your local club should be your #1 priority, as a start - and you're willing to invest the effort, you may be able to do extremely well for yourself, as I have.
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Registered: 02-12-09
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Let me get back and answer some of your original questions.

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...I've decided that I'm going to get into gem hunting by purchasing buckets of material over the internet...


Well, there are "buckets" and there are buckets. Parcels of "mine-run" gem rough can yield some keepers, but it is a real gamble. For example, a friend of mine who I took from a $30k/yr rock shop to a $2.5M/yr brokerage will be happy to sell you Brazilian Emerald by the 35-gallon barrel - about 350 pounds at $2/lb. + shipping. I doubt highly you would be able to recoup your investment. On the other hand, there are some dealers in Africa selling small gem rough parcels (typically 1 Kg) for an equal price where you can expect an ROI many times what you paid, once faceted.

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...hopefully in the near future start making some trips to hunt on my own


I highly encourage you to do exactly that. It's even better if you first start out by going on field trips with you local gem club.

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Where do you sell your finds?


That depends on what you find. The most common rock or mineral found on Earth is called "Leverite" - as in, "Leave 'er right there". Since you've watched the show, you know that finding the good stuff is a matter of knowledge and sweat - the more of each you have, the better the chances are of finding something worth selling. As for where to sell, your local gem club members should be able to advise you.

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...is it better to have a jeweler cut the stones before you sell them, or can you sell them rough?


A lapidary worker will cut the stones, not a jeweler, who mounts the finished gemstones. But it is always better to cut them yourself, if you wish to sell cut stones. Your local club should be able to teach you how to do this.

My standard fee for cutting a gemstone is $50 for the first carat of weight, and $20/carat after that. Unless you have found some extremely fine gem rough, having it cut for anything other than personal pleasure would probably not be cost effective.

OTOH, selling gem rough can bring you profit, providing your material is good - and again, you must first learn what is good before attempting to market it - see your local club. When I buy gem rough, the seller usually gives me 7-10 days to inspect it; if I can't use it, I return it at my expense and get a refund. That standard practice can eat up seller profits, so make sure that what you're selling is good.

There is a good way to sell gemstones that can bring you profit, and that is to buy stones of good quality that are already cut, but cut poorly, and then recut them yourself. If you can strike a good bargain, you can buy such a gemstone for much less than it should retail for. Once again, knowledge is profit. You should be able to use the lapidary equipment at your local club (if they have any) to do your recutting, then use the advice they give you as to how and where to sell your product. In general, mounted gemstones sell more easily than loose ones, and gold prices give us all nosebleeds. If you decide to sell loose stones, the best I have found to do is to cut Round Brilliants of 1 Carat size in extremely good material - many of my clients have purchased these as a hedge against inflation. Your mileage may vary...

In any case, I applaud your decision to take action after having watched the show! I wish you the best of luck, and hope these emails have helped you.

See you in the field! Smile
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Registered: 02-14-09
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We are new here. We've been watching Kirsten do her thing for a long time & we're planning on an RV trip to N. Carolina in June. The kids & us are so excited. We know to get permission etc We've never RV'd before. So it'll be quite an adventure for sure. We've been reading over posts & enjoy others sharing their knowledge, it's great.
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