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Just as expected, we see a show that promotes animal cruelty in its most extreme form only to put more money into this television Network. And the credentials of Zimmern are laughable for putting him in the position of a food critic. Did they ask respectable and highly regarded members of the food world prior to him and they answered what? Say…you have GOT to be kidding me? Do WHAT to animals? Eat them ALIVE? I believe they must have ALL said a resounding…”NO.”.

The countries that this middle-aged crisis balding man visits are truly 3rd world countries with uneducated people who possibly never visited a single school room. You can judge a people or country, if you will, on its treatment of sentient beings (animals). A country that treats its animals as commodities and unfeeling "things" is abhorrent and says of its inhabitants that they are no further along on the food chain than the poor animals they so cruelly treat. These 3rd world countries that this inept, aging, overweight man frequents for his only love of money and fame with total disregard for the poor animals pain and suffering is indeed repulsive.

Please don't insult my intelligence and respond that "this is the way that particular country's way of life is their own and we should respect its practices without interference.". I suppose we should respect those same countries if their eating habits entailed eating human infants? Some indeed do, as a delicacy, since the practice of infanticide for female children is condoned as women are treated no better than the animals of their countries. These countries, of course, contain NO oil that we so greatly prize, therefore we turn a blind eye to the suffering of not only it's depletion of forest, animals and exploding uneducated population. We don't get involved as there is nothing the USA needs from these 3rd world countries. Thus, exploitation runs rampant with atrocities of more than just this disgusting TV show with an American, no less, showing the world it is just fine to inflict more exploitation on repulsion.

How DARE this uneducated and irresponsible man (who would be better off in a gym, than on syndication, with the looks of his disregard for his own health and folds of flab) think he is the epitome of the top of the food chain? I have seen many undercover videos of the cruelty that is inflicted upon animals in other countries. These 3rd world people indeed have the misconception that the MORE suffering an animal endures before consumption makes them TASTE better and no one educates them this is ludicrous. China for example, in the Guang Dong province, likes to boil ALIVE cats and dogs first to remove their skin and fur (removal of course, while they are still breathing) and then skin them alive, then throw them into a cooling pot of water to finally drown before consumption. Snakes have their heads slowly cut off with blunt scissors. Baby pigs are trapped between a folding cage, ALIVE, and then placed onto a grill...not to kill them...but to slowly torture them being grilled alive to make the meat "more tender". In Malaysia, Dogs are routinely hung from trees at public picnics and slowly beaten to death with a baseball bat to "tenderize" them before being place on a grill while still breathing. And you, the American people, not only condone this by watching such a disgusting spectacle but are applauding it? Shame on all of you and you are no better than the uneducated 3rd world people who exploit these poor creatures, great and small. If you only knew the suffering that is NOT shown behind the scenes of this show you would not watch it.

If the great Steve Irwin were alive, I feel that this inhumane program would be a major concern to him and ripped from the airwaves. And to you, Zimmern, you are far from the great man Steve Irwin was. Your legacy will be that of an overweight and cruel individual that the great Steve Irwin may have considered a fine food indeed for a favorite crocodile to dine on, although you may be spat out for the putrid taste you would leave.

In closing, I suggest an upcoming episode be that the pompous and arrogant Zimmern tie one of his own “paws” down to a table, have someone slowly cut it off with a dull blade and place it on a plate for his own worldly delicacy of his oh-so-putrid palate of dining pleasure. Now THAT would most likely give this fool a "taste" of what he is truly eating and the pain involved to get there. True criminals are known to start heinous crime spree and enjoy the torture of animals. Has anyone checked out this guys crawl space under his trailer that he most likely lives in for dead bodies?

I, and everyone I encounter, will indeed boycott not only this show but the channel itself and I will voice my concerns to the sponsors of this truly unneeded and absurd program. Nor will I buy the products that sponsor this travesty of the airwaves.

Shame on all of you.
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well good for you. instead of whining about it on a message board , maybe you should travel the globe and protest third world treatment of food. although last time i checked ( maybe i missed something in current events). the united states,japan,taiwan,spain, and united kingdom weren't third world countries
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It is truly a travesty that an individual such as yourself, moose734, thinks that animal cruelty in any form is "whining".
Animal abuse occurs in industrialized countries, also, such as SOME of the ones you have mentioned (I don't see any Nobel Prizes coming out of Spain or Taiwan....just bullfighting and the latter, cheap sweat shop plastic toys) but is at least under SOME Federal scrutiny as opposed to China. The USA has it's share of "3rd world areas" or am I mistaken that all states have the mentality of say the MET in NY? The UK? Last time I was there the pubs are the main attraction for a good majority of high intellect individuals, such as yourself, only interested in a good fall down state of unconciousness. I myself, am married to a pro-drummer and have traveled the globe. I have seen first hand just how ignorant and under educated the masses are of pathetic sheep following the herd of stuipidity when it comes to the treatment of animals. Last time in Japan...the entire band ate NOTHING but veggies for fear of "something disgusting" in the food for a meat product. Get and get a life, Mr. Moose734. Hope you are enjoying that squirrel pie that you shot for supper to feed your 8 kids in the trailer park you live in. You have no class, sir, and I am saddened you so enjoy animal cruelty. You really don't have a single kind bone in your body. This is truly an awful TV show and should be pulled from the air.
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First of all uhavegot2bkidding, I will be more than happy to insult your intelligence and tell you that this IS THEIR way of life. Who are you to assume that you are better than anybody. Maybe you should look into your ancestry and see just how YOUR ancestors lived. Man, no matter how you look at him, is and always will be at the peak of the food chain. If animals were not meant to be eaten then they would have evolved as we have and become equals on the food chain. Maybe you should grow up and learn how to adapt. If you are repulsed at the way of life for these countries then turn your tv off and stay at home. Bleeding hearts like yourself are not needed in this world so try not to become part of it.
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By the way squirrel pie is great but I personally like my squirrel in a stew mixed with black bear meat. You should try it. While your at it, try a frog leg sandwich fried with just a little bit of salt and pepper. Simply mouth watering!!! Big Grin
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In broaching the subject of your calling attention to "this IS THEIR way of life", I surmise you to be a cretin with little intellect in thinking that an "anything goes" mentality is acceptable as long as it suits you personally. Possibly you agree with “this is their way of life” in war-torn oil rich countries or should we demand they change their way of life, as we are trying to do so now to our way of life? That statement, in itself, shows contradiction of terms. If you didn't know this, we now have microwaves and new technology which in turn shows a higher level of thinking. This in turn, should disavow your contradiction in argument of adaptation. We humans are to actually think so significantly of ourselves, from your post, that we have the right to treat anyone and anything as we choose without regard? AS a higher thinker we are bound by thought to care, know right from wrong and inflicting needless suffering on animals is totally unacceptable in any case. We as higher thinking beings should not intentionally torture other living creatures sharing our planet and to unbelievably engage in thinking that we have some “right” to do so is laughable. We humans are the ONLY creature on the planet to kill for sport…some sport…killing something for fun. For that matter, eating a tortured animal is akin to killing for sport and shows a low mentality such as yours. Animals don’t kill for enjoyment, which makes them pure. Animals take down prey for survival and kill their prey without torture consuming it after without saving anything for a trophy.

In trying to insult my intelligence you do the opposite in only hurting yourself with such an absurd posting of little essence reeking in sulfuric flame. So, I can also be caustic in return. I believe you need to at least endeavor to read books on subjects you know nothing about before posting. Possibly, if you had finished elementary school and not dropped out in 6th grade, you would know the following. Ever look at how your teeth are shaped, that is if you have any left? They are not sharp and carnivorous. They are that of an herbivore, flat, and not for ripping and shredding. Man didn’t EVOLVE into eating meat whatsoever. It was a necessity, only for survival, as in winter the only food source was moving and running. We were not always the top of the food chain and really still are not. To grasp your idiotic thinking that animals (which we our selves were approximately a blink of the eye in evolutionary terms 10,000 years ago) should have evolved at the same rate, well, you are wrong, as animals did and continue to indeed evolve. They mate with the strongest and smartest to propagate their species. Humans, on the other hand, pick a mate at will regardless of anything but love and I sadly feel that we are now becoming a species of the unintelligent.

I suggest you remove yourself from the lazy boy, empty your overflowing ashtray on the stained coffee table, pick-up all the Bud cans littered around you, put down your remote whilst enjoying the most exciting sport of little race cars going around in circles over and over again and plan a trip to say…Africa. Once there, without a GUN in hand, you WILL NOT be the top of the food chain prancing around in animal territory. You are only the top of the food chain without a weapon in hand, sweets. If the big cats don't make you into a snack immediately, the smallest of parasites will worm their way into you and eat you alive. How silly you are to think as you do, but then again, it is very safe living in your small brain thinking you are indeed the top of the food chain while in a grocery store, isn’t it? Will that be credit or debit?

I really stay up at night (yeah….sure) wondering why they don’t even sell the items you eat in any grocery store? Is it because they are truly for idiots to chomp through or are you unemployed and can’t afford to shop? Top of the food chain? Make me laugh heartily. What a joke you are. You, sir, are the on the very bottom in the real world other than when in the safety of your cabin made of cardboard and newspaper with weapon in hand. Try some compassion for other living beings and possibly it will give you some self respect. My bleeding heart, as you say, is large and I indeed am a better person than you. I can only hope you educate yourself and see that this program is a travesty that has an inept host, unqualified to boot, and is put on the air by syndication for a reality show as the Writers Guild is still on strike, thus…no programs are being written and something has to fill the almighty airspace. It will be pulled, the ratings for it are in the toilet. The show has absolutely no redeeming value and those who watch it, are sick individuals indeed. Oh yes…torture of animals is such fun to watch….they will pull this show as soon as the Writers come back from strike. Ignorance is bliss, isn’t it for you?
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Please keep this civil. You have a lot of anger inside you uhavegot2bkidding.

Don't insult anyone's intelligence, just because you're EXTREMELY against animal cruelty, not everyone else is. I am a vegetarian and am against animal cruelty just as you are but I'm not going to go around calling people idiots and uneducated morons just because they eat meat.

You are wrong when it comes to humans in general, sorry, but man IS at the top of the food chain. Going to Africa into a wildlife territory without a rifle is plain dumb, THAT'S WHY man invented a rifle!

Stop making up stories about other forum members, you don't know if someone's sitting in his/her couch all day with beer cans all around and wasting their time watching TV. It looks like YOU spend endless hours on the internet badmouthing people. Shouldn't YOU go to these third world countries and try to stand up for animal rights THERE instead of wasting time on forums like this one?

As for your comment on animals, that they are pure and they only take down prey for suvival and kill their prey without torture... What the hell are you talking about? It seems you are the uneducated one. Have you ever heard of leopard seals? how they torture penguins before they eat them, do you know how they eat them? They bash them against the water so the skin rips off them. Did you ever hear of killer whales (orcas)? Did you know how they harass and torture seals and porpoises for no apparent reason? What do you call that? Purity? Did you ever see how a snake or a spider eats their prey? Please read up and then talk about how pure animals are.

And most of all, go out there and do something. Writing your own feelings and anger on forums like this one makes zero difference.

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Civil? Your posting isn't fit for a bowling alley bathrooom wall, if you pontificate from your soap box about MY being civil.

I do travel the globe, if you read my previous posts, I have been to many 3rd world countries that torture animals all for the love of trying something native. YUK. And you say I'm the idiot? Can you read?

Yeah..I especially liked the part about humans being the TOP of the food chain but only with a gun in their hand. That just makes soooo much sense that my mind is reeling from your absurd comments. And isn't it just GREAT we invented the gun? More nonsense.

As far as writing my "own anger and feelings on forums like this one makes zero dif". Looks like you have made quite the specticle of your own anger in responding with a viporous lashing.

Get a life, Jan-e-poo, as it seems you spend quite a bit of time in front of your PC in posting to this "bored" (correct spelling in this instance). Glad you are such a vegetarian who really should be eating meat, as you sound like a carnivore. How hypocritical you are.

Have a great day!
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Oooops...forgot...animals ARE PURE. They don't use guns and hate to burst your bubble but animals don't kill for pleasure. They kill to eat and they, for the most part, do a quick kill in most cases. What Hunting magazine did you read that in? Or is that something you read on a bathroom wall somewhere?
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uhavegot2bkidding,
Please try to avoid insulting other users. I appreciate your arguments but wish you would do them in a more constructive way without antagonizing other users. I hope you understand.
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Yet another yawn from uhavegot2bkidding. Write a book that nobody will read. At least that would save us from these cruel long posts.
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uhavegot2bkidding,
Please come down. No one is attacking you here, but yet you're attacking everyone. If you want to make a difference, coming out with guns blazing is not the way to go. Why? Because nobody will take you seriously.

Nowhere in my post do I call you an idiot, can YOU read?

Man IS at the top of the food chain precisely because he learned to how use tools, first it was a bone, later a stone, a lance, a bow, whatever. And now he learned how make a gun. It's all evolution. If tigers or lions learned how to do the same, we would still be monkeys and they'd be ruling Earth.

I don't understand the "bored" comment, did someone misspell it?

As for your last comment, that you think I really should be eating meat, here's a thought.
If I was a person who eats meat and reads this forum, reading your posts would just convince me that I shouldn't be a vegetarian because vegetarians are a$$holes. Maybe you need to eat some meat once in a while, maybe it'll calm you down.

Animals are pure? Read what I wrote in my previous comment about killer whales and leopard seals. I'm not a researcher but I do watch a lot of nature shows, one of them being Blue Planet on Discovery channel. I would think the program is legit, knowing David Attenborough narrated it. That's where they show how orcas torture seals. Do some research, if you can come up with the reason why they do it, please be free to explain it to me.
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Yet more dribble from individuals who just don't get it that Humans inflicting pain on animals is wrong. A discussion board is about debate. Debate means opinions that are diverse. Lets just all pretend to agree and then they can take this board down, as it does contain little to no substance for the most part.

I suppose this board is just for nice and pleasant remarks about a show that truly shouldn't be on a "Travel" channel, as it really makes me NOT want to travel to ANY of the countries again.

It won't be on for long anyway. As one posting mentioned, and a very good point was made, that they are running out of disgusting items to consume anyway. How true, unless in agreeing with that posting that he wants to do a show on how great the fast food tastes at McDonalds. Hmmm....the dripping fat is just mouth watering! This guy is headed for a heart-attack big time with all the fat he eats and his cholesterol level has to be thru the roof.

Zimmern can just go back to being a second rate food critic and get eaten alive on his ridiculous writing critiques of restaurants in his home town again. Yup...he will be out of business very soon which is oh-so-comforting. The world is finite as are the mouth watering entrails he consumes from a number of countries that is dwindling quickly on his itinerary to visit. Maybe his last show could be that of eating pond-scum from his own backyard...because that will be all that is left to remark on.

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Janny...I feel any explanation would be lost on you. And to "WAD", the poster. THAT name says it all for you.
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uhavegot2bkidding,

You can represent animal rights without coming across like such an ignorant person. You may not agree with what another person eats, but you don't have to down right degrade them, accusing them of being barbaric uneducated third world people.

I've watched almost all of the episodes of this show, and not all of them travel to "third world countries" like you have claimed. One of the episodes are right here in the Gulf Coast of America. In this episode, it shows a fella hunting for some sort of critter that looks like a rat/squirrel. Once he spots this animal, he clubs it with a stick and proceed to skin it. And I'm pretty sure this goes on everywhere in the USA. Let me ask you this, is this man considered an "uneducated" man who never "visited a single school room" to you?
And what about the episode where Andrew goes to Alaska and eats a whale blubber? Are those people uneducated people too?
It seems like you are not really out to defend animals, you are here to degrade people who are different from you. You're close-minded and ugly. The only way to make you feel better is to insult people you don't even know. Andrew also traveled to Japan and tried bizarre foods there as well. I guess you will call Japan a third world uneducated country too, just because they ate a live frog heart? There are people in Japan that eats frog hearts, but I'm pretty sure those people are wayyyyyyyyyyyyy educated than you'll ever be.
If you really want to save the animals, why don't you go an attack real issues, like people who kill animals, not for food, but for luxuries. People who kill animals for fur, oil, tusk, skin, and bones all in the name of beauty? The people whom you attacked use these animals for FOOD.
Some countries do not have manufactories that produces meat, so they have to go out and hunt their own food. And most of those countries do not have the luxuries of a fridge, so they need to eat their meats right away. They will kill the animal and cook them fresh. But in your eyes, you consider it cruelty? Why do you waste your time here on a message board where no one really cares about you and your opinions?
If you were stranded on an island with the "uneducated" third world person you degraded, I will bet anything that you will be the first to die. You don't know how to hunt for food. You don't know how to survive harsh conditions, you won't know what's edible and what's not. Your high education level won't help you. So when it comes down to it, you are the uneducated one.
And a little advice, before you type out a long useless message, why don't you do a little research? People in the USA EAT all kinds of bizzare things too, but to you, they aren't uneducated, because they are Americans right?

So stop using animal cruelty as an excuse to belittle people from other countries. If you really cared for the animals, you'd start in your own country. How about the factory workers who purposely abuse cows or chickens? How about them huh? How about everyday animal abuse that are reported to the ASPCA? These are people in AMERICA

SHAME ON YOU.

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I can't read such long posts but I want to say that the shows where they hit the nutria over the head and ate the guinea pigs was too much.

What's next, dogs?

C'mon. Please have some respect. That's just gross.
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How discusting of show can you come up with
I sure will not be watching
I do not need to know people eat this Crap!!!!!!!!!
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I don't know why you people knock on this guy then come here and waste your time talking crap about him. You'll go out your way to register for a userid then waste more time posting something that will only take up space and your stupid time! Leave the guy alone. If you dont like it....DONT WATCH IT!

Thanks Andrew Zimmern for a great show! Rock On! "If it looks good...EAT IT!"
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I liked the faces of death episode where they ate the monkey brains fresh.....talk about DEE-LICIOUS!!!

what did you think of that episode uhavegot2bkidding?

Seriously, take this level of excitement and apply it to cancer research for children...be productive in that vein and worry less about fried kitten in mango-puppy sauce.
You sound as if you are very articulate, the world would be a much better place if you applied yourself to help the innocent children of the world...
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Regarding the China show: if they are eating domestically raised donkey, I don't have a problem with that. If they import the meat (donkey, horse, foal, etc) from Canida or Mexico, then there is a severe problem with that. Today (March 5th) and yesterday, our congress is voting to stop the transportation of American horses to slaughterhouses in Mexico and Canada.

My daughter (12yrs old) and I work at a rescue center in Florida that outbids the slaughter buyers, rescues the horses/ponies/babies and gets them placed for adoption.

What the consumer in the foreign countries don't know, is the meat they are eating could have been a racehorse or someone's pet. either way, they have probably been given medicine that makes their meat toxic.
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While your boycotting the show please boycott the boards as well. This is a great show that shows what the world really eats, and it is not granola.
The only right an animal has is to be served on my plate medium rare. I have nothing against vegetarians, I think they taste great. However, there is this invention, it is called a remote control. You can use it to change the channel if you don't like the show. Maybe you should become acquainted with it.
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